Warren and Sanders are not the path of the future. Some of their ideas could translate well but they are 75 and 83 years old respectively, and their role now should be to support the next generation. AOC and Jasmine Crockett, Chris Murphy, Alsobrooks, Booker, Buttegeig, and so on - that's where to look, imo.
The adoration for the Clinton and Obama admins and the extension of those admins truly needs to stop. They were not golden eras, at least if we're comparing historically over decades vs comparing to Trump, in which case, they were platinum eras. Mainstream media is rife with their garbage takes.
I advocate for Oliver, Sarah Kendzior, and David Sirota as writers and media alternatives who call out Dems who are not getting it done while still holding Trump and his admin accountable.
They , C&O&O², did good things in their times but Carville and company abetting the right wing pull on the Overton window must be combated at all costs.
Clinton, Obama and Biden all had to spend the first part of their administrations cleaning up the messes left by their Republican predecessors. Unfortunately, one other thing they had in common was a belief in the magic of "bi-partisanship". Republicans have been screwing up the country--to the benefit of a handful of ultra-rich donors--for decades. Democrats believing they need the help of Republicans to help fix problems Republicans caused is like firefighters believing they need the help of arsonists to put out a fire.
As much as I love Nancy Pelosi, I am tired of getting multiple emails from her begging for money without identifying how the Old Guard will use our money! I am old myself (75), but we need new ways of communicating and new and younger leaders. Hogg is right.
Absolutely. We can and should discuss how best to shape the messaging of the issues, but we need to be focusing on the issues that matter now and will matter in the future to large numbers of Americans.
"Democrats pretending to be assholes in order to win over bigots will come across as fake and they will lose anyway.
One thing that I know a lot of people who read this will very much not like to hear (and I know, because it did not go over well the last time I mentioned it) is that Bernie Sanders is continually rated the most or one of the most popular politicians in the United States.
Please listen to me when I tell you why. It is because people believe he is sincere. They believe he believes the things he believes. They are less bothered by him being an out-and-out socialist than by Democrats they secretly suspect are socialists, because, hey! He’s out there saying he’s a socialist. They don’t think he has anything to hide. Whether they agree with him or not, he’s out there being himself, and who he is remains consistent."
Fucking STAND for something. Stop letting the consultants focus-group every candidate into barfing out meaningless pablum.
>>Joe Biden “totally fucked us” by leaving it too late to drop out of the 2024 US presidential election, a former top campaign aide to Kamala Harris has told the authors of a new book.
David Plouffe, who was manager of Barack Obama’s winning 2008 campaign and a senior adviser in his White House, was drafted in to help Harris’s bid for president after the declining Biden withdrew from the race last summer.
Harris’s 107-day sprint against Donald Trump was “a fucking nightmare”, Plouffe is quoted as saying by authors Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson in Original Sin: President Biden’s Decline, Its Cover-up, and His Disastrous Choice to Run Again. A copy was obtained by the Guardian.
“And it’s all Biden,” Plouffe adds, reflecting on the former US president’s decisions to run for re-election and then to cling on for more than three weeks after a catastrophic debate performance against Trump raised questions about his mental acuity and age. “He totally fucked us.”<<
As Steve M. notes, "Plouffe's argument is that the lateness of Biden's departure from the race left him and other campaign professionals with inadequate time to work their magic. But the substitution of Kamala Harris for Biden in July 2024 led to a surge in the polls for the Democratic ticket and a massive wave of donations. Although the wave of enthusiasm was widely dismissed as a "sugar high," Harris seemed to have a decent chance of winning before the consultant bros came on board. Maybe they were the problem."
I couldn't agree more. Carville has moved from really in tune with the political landscape to out of touch to embarrassing to listen to.
The boomers really REALLY need to retire. And Carville isn't even a boomer, he's Silent Generation! Pelosi and Sanders are well into the Silent Generation. It is absurd that these people are still controlling our government and future. There are currently 177 Boomer and Silents in the House and 66 in the Senate. 180 GenX, 66 Millennials and 1 lonely Z in the House with 28 X, and 5 M in Senate. You have to be 30 to run for senate, so Z doesn't apply yet in the senate.
And BTW, I'm not for term limits. We should be able to accomplish successful transition of leadership through elections. There is value in longevity in government, but not like some of these people! Term limits effectively just extend the election cycle. If they're limited to 2 terms, then anyone interested in running just waits for the second term to end since it costs so much to run against an incumbent. There should be a healthy competition, both within primaries and general elections, every single time. If a person primarying an incumbent is laughed off the stage, all the better. It means the incumbent is doing a good job and is liked, and should therefore keep their job.
I also believe there should be cognition tests, with removal a result of failure. And while we're at it, a basic civics test in order to even run for federal government. The US citizenship test would work nicely.
The future is the path outlined by AOC, Warren and Bernie. I'm sick of losing to pathetic republicans and I don't want more of the same.
Warren and Sanders are not the path of the future. Some of their ideas could translate well but they are 75 and 83 years old respectively, and their role now should be to support the next generation. AOC and Jasmine Crockett, Chris Murphy, Alsobrooks, Booker, Buttegeig, and so on - that's where to look, imo.
100% yes.
The adoration for the Clinton and Obama admins and the extension of those admins truly needs to stop. They were not golden eras, at least if we're comparing historically over decades vs comparing to Trump, in which case, they were platinum eras. Mainstream media is rife with their garbage takes.
I advocate for Oliver, Sarah Kendzior, and David Sirota as writers and media alternatives who call out Dems who are not getting it done while still holding Trump and his admin accountable.
They , C&O&O², did good things in their times but Carville and company abetting the right wing pull on the Overton window must be combated at all costs.
Clinton, Obama and Biden all had to spend the first part of their administrations cleaning up the messes left by their Republican predecessors. Unfortunately, one other thing they had in common was a belief in the magic of "bi-partisanship". Republicans have been screwing up the country--to the benefit of a handful of ultra-rich donors--for decades. Democrats believing they need the help of Republicans to help fix problems Republicans caused is like firefighters believing they need the help of arsonists to put out a fire.
As much as I love Nancy Pelosi, I am tired of getting multiple emails from her begging for money without identifying how the Old Guard will use our money! I am old myself (75), but we need new ways of communicating and new and younger leaders. Hogg is right.
Agree 100% - I am concerned about the negative pushback David Hogg seems to be getting. He is the only one actively doing something.
Absolutely. We can and should discuss how best to shape the messaging of the issues, but we need to be focusing on the issues that matter now and will matter in the future to large numbers of Americans.
And happy birthday to Kal-El!
Words of wisdom and happy birthday to the cutest fur baby💕
I just read this post at Wonkette that puts this same sentiment well: https://www.wonkette.com/p/dems-dont-need-to-moderate-they-need
"Democrats pretending to be assholes in order to win over bigots will come across as fake and they will lose anyway.
One thing that I know a lot of people who read this will very much not like to hear (and I know, because it did not go over well the last time I mentioned it) is that Bernie Sanders is continually rated the most or one of the most popular politicians in the United States.
Please listen to me when I tell you why. It is because people believe he is sincere. They believe he believes the things he believes. They are less bothered by him being an out-and-out socialist than by Democrats they secretly suspect are socialists, because, hey! He’s out there saying he’s a socialist. They don’t think he has anything to hide. Whether they agree with him or not, he’s out there being himself, and who he is remains consistent."
Fucking STAND for something. Stop letting the consultants focus-group every candidate into barfing out meaningless pablum.
Add David Plouffe to the list:
>>Joe Biden “totally fucked us” by leaving it too late to drop out of the 2024 US presidential election, a former top campaign aide to Kamala Harris has told the authors of a new book.
David Plouffe, who was manager of Barack Obama’s winning 2008 campaign and a senior adviser in his White House, was drafted in to help Harris’s bid for president after the declining Biden withdrew from the race last summer.
Harris’s 107-day sprint against Donald Trump was “a fucking nightmare”, Plouffe is quoted as saying by authors Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson in Original Sin: President Biden’s Decline, Its Cover-up, and His Disastrous Choice to Run Again. A copy was obtained by the Guardian.
“And it’s all Biden,” Plouffe adds, reflecting on the former US president’s decisions to run for re-election and then to cling on for more than three weeks after a catastrophic debate performance against Trump raised questions about his mental acuity and age. “He totally fucked us.”<<
https://nomoremister.blogspot.com/2025/05/we-have-no-way-of-knowing-whether-biden.html
As Steve M. notes, "Plouffe's argument is that the lateness of Biden's departure from the race left him and other campaign professionals with inadequate time to work their magic. But the substitution of Kamala Harris for Biden in July 2024 led to a surge in the polls for the Democratic ticket and a massive wave of donations. Although the wave of enthusiasm was widely dismissed as a "sugar high," Harris seemed to have a decent chance of winning before the consultant bros came on board. Maybe they were the problem."
I couldn't agree more. Carville has moved from really in tune with the political landscape to out of touch to embarrassing to listen to.
The boomers really REALLY need to retire. And Carville isn't even a boomer, he's Silent Generation! Pelosi and Sanders are well into the Silent Generation. It is absurd that these people are still controlling our government and future. There are currently 177 Boomer and Silents in the House and 66 in the Senate. 180 GenX, 66 Millennials and 1 lonely Z in the House with 28 X, and 5 M in Senate. You have to be 30 to run for senate, so Z doesn't apply yet in the senate.
And BTW, I'm not for term limits. We should be able to accomplish successful transition of leadership through elections. There is value in longevity in government, but not like some of these people! Term limits effectively just extend the election cycle. If they're limited to 2 terms, then anyone interested in running just waits for the second term to end since it costs so much to run against an incumbent. There should be a healthy competition, both within primaries and general elections, every single time. If a person primarying an incumbent is laughed off the stage, all the better. It means the incumbent is doing a good job and is liked, and should therefore keep their job.
I also believe there should be cognition tests, with removal a result of failure. And while we're at it, a basic civics test in order to even run for federal government. The US citizenship test would work nicely.
{steps off high horse}