If it gives other Republicans cover to vote for Kamala, and other prominent (and hopefully less toxic) Republicans cover to endorse her as well, I'm okay with it. This is definitely a case of "the enemy of my enemy is (temporarily) my friend"!
I loathe Cheney too, but I completely disagree with you on the politics. Every Republican who publicly states they will be voting for Harris should be celebrated.
I didn't like him either, and when Trump is defeated I'll still dislike his politics, but when you're in a foxhole you'll be happy to have anybody, whether you like that person or not, in there with you shooting out.
“We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors… and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.” This quote defines the W administration. There’s a direct line to Trump. They have never cared about the truth.
And I'm so excited about your new role at Daily Kos! That was my first political platform 20 years ago, which originated from Markos Moulitsas, who like you and I was absolutely against the Iraq debacle.
When the 20th century ended, I said I’m glad it’s over except that the 21st will be worse. That was even before That Election in November 2000. The Supreme Court’s decision to hand the Presidency to Bush W set the tone that we’ve endured ever since.
Cheney, in addition to political corruption, profited from Halliburton’s war contract. He had no business awarding it to his former corporation. It says a lot about the lack of accountability that Cheney did not - and still doesn’t - face any consequences for the whole war machine. Bush W also never stood in a court for the same.
Most of my life, and for all my voting years, like all late Boomer/GenX like me, has had to put up with this GOP crap for over 40 years. Reagan solidified everything building up the previous twenty years to 1980. It’s a trap we hopefully will escape this November. He should be burned in effigy along with the cast of characters that enabled all that followed.
As for Dick Cheney, his effigy should either be torched by a flamethrower or blown up into fragments while we dance around the fires in celebration. It sounds a lot like the finale of the movie “V for Vendetta”. And rightly so.
I forgot to add my two thumbs up to Oliver for his Substack column and now work for DailyKos. My finances prevented me from doing paying subscriptions but I am fixing that. I’ve a list of Substacks I follow and external sources such as Democracy Docket (Mark Elias) and ProPublica. I’m adding DailyKos.
How I can help financially is still in planning. But I’m trying not to chicken out applying as a poll worker. And my vote Blue all the way down the ballot. Thank you Oliver, from Flori-duh. - Tom
I cannot Thank You enough for your comments. I totally agree and have believed all along that both Cheney and Bush along with McNamara should be tried as war criminals.
I canceled my consent for organ donation over my utter horror at the thought it might be MY heart keeping Dick Cheney alive, so I can definitely relate.
Chaney is the slimest of slimeballs. I'm actually still angry he's not in jail. There's nothing good about that man, and Harris/Walz/Biden should stay far far away from his misama of toxicity.
NGL, I chortled gleefully when Haliburton got hacked last month.
Stephen Elliott wrote a small novella about Chaney and all the slugs that should be in jail by now, actually being in Gitmo, instead of the "detainees" that are actually there. I can't remember the name of it, it's in my room of overstuffed Billys. It has a picture of Chaney in an orange suit on the front.
The reality is it might persuade other people to vote for Kamala Harris. It absolves him of absolutely nothing and yes, of course he is at a minimum a disgusting, fucking human being, human being part being in theory, but again it could persuade certain voters to support vice president Harris to ensure we keep that criminal piece of shit Donald Trump out of the fucking White House.
I’ll take any endorsement. All hands on deck to defeat Trump. The polls are still too tight.
You are correct, sir.
I realized Cheney's true soulless venality when he was asked about dead American troops and replied, "Well, they did volunteer, you know."
Answer for everything… GEEZus
I have a really big heavy plastic walking cast for my leg/foot I would have thrown at him, if he said that in front of me.
If it gives other Republicans cover to vote for Kamala, and other prominent (and hopefully less toxic) Republicans cover to endorse her as well, I'm okay with it. This is definitely a case of "the enemy of my enemy is (temporarily) my friend"!
I loathe Cheney too, but I completely disagree with you on the politics. Every Republican who publicly states they will be voting for Harris should be celebrated.
I didn't like him either, and when Trump is defeated I'll still dislike his politics, but when you're in a foxhole you'll be happy to have anybody, whether you like that person or not, in there with you shooting out.
Exactly. If Roosevelt and Churchill could make common cause with Stalin, we can make use of the Cheneys. Anyway, no one’s soul is being darkened.
“We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors… and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.” This quote defines the W administration. There’s a direct line to Trump. They have never cared about the truth.
Agreed 💯
And I'm so excited about your new role at Daily Kos! That was my first political platform 20 years ago, which originated from Markos Moulitsas, who like you and I was absolutely against the Iraq debacle.
When the 20th century ended, I said I’m glad it’s over except that the 21st will be worse. That was even before That Election in November 2000. The Supreme Court’s decision to hand the Presidency to Bush W set the tone that we’ve endured ever since.
Cheney, in addition to political corruption, profited from Halliburton’s war contract. He had no business awarding it to his former corporation. It says a lot about the lack of accountability that Cheney did not - and still doesn’t - face any consequences for the whole war machine. Bush W also never stood in a court for the same.
Most of my life, and for all my voting years, like all late Boomer/GenX like me, has had to put up with this GOP crap for over 40 years. Reagan solidified everything building up the previous twenty years to 1980. It’s a trap we hopefully will escape this November. He should be burned in effigy along with the cast of characters that enabled all that followed.
As for Dick Cheney, his effigy should either be torched by a flamethrower or blown up into fragments while we dance around the fires in celebration. It sounds a lot like the finale of the movie “V for Vendetta”. And rightly so.
I forgot to add my two thumbs up to Oliver for his Substack column and now work for DailyKos. My finances prevented me from doing paying subscriptions but I am fixing that. I’ve a list of Substacks I follow and external sources such as Democracy Docket (Mark Elias) and ProPublica. I’m adding DailyKos.
How I can help financially is still in planning. But I’m trying not to chicken out applying as a poll worker. And my vote Blue all the way down the ballot. Thank you Oliver, from Flori-duh. - Tom
He used to be my #1 hate object, but Clarence Thomas has taken over.
I cannot Thank You enough for your comments. I totally agree and have believed all along that both Cheney and Bush along with McNamara should be tried as war criminals.
COL (Ret) Bethany Dusenberry
I agree about Cheney, but if even one dead-set foreign policy hawk follows him, it might be worth it.
Kal El raises the eternal question: are a dachshund's nostrils shaped like commas or tadpoles?
Deep
I canceled my consent for organ donation over my utter horror at the thought it might be MY heart keeping Dick Cheney alive, so I can definitely relate.
Kal-El doesn’t know who Dick Cheney is and I envy that so badly.
Well put!!!
Chaney is the slimest of slimeballs. I'm actually still angry he's not in jail. There's nothing good about that man, and Harris/Walz/Biden should stay far far away from his misama of toxicity.
NGL, I chortled gleefully when Haliburton got hacked last month.
Stephen Elliott wrote a small novella about Chaney and all the slugs that should be in jail by now, actually being in Gitmo, instead of the "detainees" that are actually there. I can't remember the name of it, it's in my room of overstuffed Billys. It has a picture of Chaney in an orange suit on the front.
The reality is it might persuade other people to vote for Kamala Harris. It absolves him of absolutely nothing and yes, of course he is at a minimum a disgusting, fucking human being, human being part being in theory, but again it could persuade certain voters to support vice president Harris to ensure we keep that criminal piece of shit Donald Trump out of the fucking White House.
Cheney was a war criminal. He should have been prosecuted and punished as one.
And, Oliver, congratulations on the new gig!